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My Thoughts On, Uh… Religion

It’s troublesome, to say the least.

However, before I continue I would like you to give you, Dear Reader, a warning. This post might offend you if you are a religious person. I, sincerely and with my warmest regards, would advise you to stop reading now and discover a less controversial blog in the very loving space we call the Internet.

Seriously, stop. In the end this post will just make you feel miserable, and believe me when I say, I really want you to have a good day.

Unless you are a hateful and bigoted person. In that case, please go to hell. (HAHAHAHA)

 Also Mom, if you haven’t stopped reading by now, you really should. Please.  (italics and bold letters added for overwhelming emphasis)

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And so, once upon a time, I was baptised at the age of two, which apparently made me old enough to hold a huge lit candle (I didn’t set fire to the church, so I guess it was okay). 284304_125379804218914_4230451_nI went to a private Catholic school until grade 11, when I moved to Canada. The school I went to as a child had its issues, but generally I had quite a lot of fun being the class tomboy (in the picture below I’m hugging St Nicholas from the right). Though, I do remember the time, when the principal nun forbid a student from inviting classmates to see Harry Potter for the first time, since the magic depicted was considered evil. There are a few more instances when the school would meddle in the children’s lives outside of school, but I didn’t think much of it at the time, because in the end I was religious as well. I was a rebellious kid, but I still got good grades, so I wasn’t in trouble most of the time (haha, no. You’re not going to make me digress any more).

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Things changed when I turned fourteen. Bad things happened that made me question the existence of god. I hated going to Sunday mass, so I usually snuck out to the small park that was in front of the church. There, I would sit down on one of the rotting benches and stare at the sky, contemplating why should I be wasting time on an invisible being, while I would very much prefer to be enjoying the real ones instead. Or at least visible ones. I couldn’t make Naruto and Kim Possible wait for me any longer!!!

To this day, and I want to make it very clear, I will always respect the beliefs of other people. I’m not trying to discredit their faith, but I am trying to explain why a Catholic person like me, became more of an agnostic than anything else. I don’t really identify with either agnostics or atheists, because I just really don’t care. What I believe in the most, is to live your life to the fullest, while remembering you only have one.

As I have mentioned, my line of questioning god, started when things took a darker turn in my life. As always, I would dismiss my own problems and tell myself there’s countless children out there that have it worse than me. After all, I have a roof over my head, food on the table, and an education (sort of). So then, why would god let things happen to innocent people around the world? Or me? The answer I always received was that he just kept testing my faith. And I was like “huh?”, what is he, my math teacher tormenting me for fun? When I didn’t look convinced enough, I was told “god works in mysterious ways”. That was like telling me I’ve solved all the math problems correctly, but my teacher “worked in mysterious ways”, so he gave me an F and slapped me on the face to make sure I believe him.

Anyway, while researching, examples to explain how I felt, I came across this quote:

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Things just did not add up. Keep in mind, I am still thinking of the Catholic god, asking him in my mind (as if he’s actually there) “what the heck, dude?”. Why is he depicted as a man anyway? I started finding issues with the holy teachings and the bible.

Timothy 2:12 “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” Tim, I really don’t think you’d like it here today, with all the equality going on and such.

And so I researched more online. Apparently Peter condoned slavery (1 Peter 2:18):

“Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.” I guess, both Tim and Pete had similar views on equality, hmm.

And so, instead of looking at the bible as a holy text, I started to see it more as a historical account of the customs and traditions in ancient cultures. The ideas seemed just way too outdated to apply to our lives today. And after all:

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Then a thought crept into my mind. What if I was going to be sent to hell for having such blasphemous thoughts? In the end having an eternal life after death, sounds like pretty sweet deal. Then again:

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After learning of the atrocities of the Catholic church allowed in the past, I would never be part of an institution like this again. In Canada alone, the stealing of Inuit children from their families to send them South to residential schools to be abused physically and emotionally, was enough for me to cringe every time I remembered I used to be part of that religion.

I personally, do not believe in god. I will not tolerate someone trying to impose their beliefs on me. I think that religion has caused a lot of harm, dividing people, breeding hate, and creating conflict. However, at the same time religion and faith has a lot of meaning to other people and sometimes allows them to be happy. Despite the awful things that the church has done, a lot of charities are founded by religious organisations. This is something I would never want to take away from anyone.

So, go forth and be happy! I love you all.

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70 thoughts on “My Thoughts On, Uh… Religion

  1. Just to warn you, am reading to the end, and just as this is a public forum, do not erase my inner most thoughts on this subject from your blog. As you are well aware, for justice and fairness, both sides must be heard, otherwise it is just a unilateral opinion and can lead others in an undecided way to hell.

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  2. Dearest Celine, it is with regret that you have not read the Holy Scriptures nor understood who GOD is. It is obvious that you are not atheist but pagan, since you are worshiping other gods. Time will prove to you that GOD’s Love is merciful, when you will need it most. Have the due diligence not to subtract any verse of the Holy Scriptures out of context, nor deem them cultural or outdated, read first. As for the way you do blaspheme, and know there is retribution, take time to read the Holy Bible. Perhaps, as you witness evil, you think you are immune. Have the heart not to wish me ill, because have been firm in my trust in GOD. Since you may deem this response a rebuff, it is not. Rather a prayer, that since you were in the hands of pagans, catholic nuns, who worshipped other gods, and prayed to graven images of their cult, while celebrating every November 30 over a cauldron of boiling water and poured melted wax for divination, much like harry potter. If you recount truly the photos, remember that your baptism is void, as it does not count in the eyes of GOD. Then Nicolas is a man made idol only, not a saint, another catholic invention to intimidate children for manipulation. Catholics do not abide in Christ, nor in GOD. Am relieved that you recognise the horrid ways of the catholic cult. GOD was taken in vain by this cult and many other religions. It was never your fault for the ugly ways you experienced. Do not blame GOD either. All GOD asks is that we do the 10 Commandments, then love one another and that is all. Why the fuss? Man made religions destroy.. Can you think about Love, about fairness to GOD, and what about the fact that am not imposing, but hope to enlighten while sharing my wonderous experiences with GOD. It is with Love that I pray to continue this discussion. Please continue to share your thoughts.

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    • The only thing I’d like to correct in response to your long comment is that I do not believe in other gods, pagan or what not, and your claim that the nuns are witches is a bit absurd. There is no evidence for that. Anyway, have a good day.

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      • You say yourself that”I would very much like to be enjoying the real ones…” Referring to some names of naruto and Kim …other gods are pagan.
        And as for the nuns and their rituals, why are you not remembering andrzejki? Surely you will now recall your accounting to me of this witchery. Your comment at that time to me was : why can’t we have potter when they are melting wax? I remember their hypocrisy. Also when you cannot remember, ask those in your polish class about it, or even read about it in the private schools archives of weekly events. Please, do not dismiss that there is evidence.
        I will have a beautiful day, thank you.

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      • These are cartoon characters mom. And no andrzejki are like st valentines and that’s it. You’re welcome.

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  3. Being in denial while refusing what happened is not scholarly. And what were the rituals of andrzejki? Valentine’s another catholic thought. There is not a way to discuss when lines are drawn, please be open minded to what the nuns do for the 30th of November. That’s it.

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  4. Also, can you please be thinking about what my long comment is? The above exchange detracts from the main thrust of my thoughts.

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    • There’s nothing more for me to say. You hold your own beliefs and I respect them and I hope you can respect mine.

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      • Sorry, my dearest daughter, it is with regret that your beliefs are not inline with GOD, and am saddened to say that your anti Christ and anti GOD beliefs fall short of respect. That being said, I do pray for you with love and will never cease to open the door of my home to you. Can you never forget this. Take it not as a personal rejection, please. Then you will come one day with a different belief, harden not your heart to this. Thank you for your thoughts on this. Please do not shut your mind. Love always, your Mom

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  5. That’s kind of mind-bending. Apparently you’re either christian or pagan.
    I can feel myself vanishing from existence as we speak. I am a logical paradox. Religion is systematically dumbing down our schools,and prohibiting our moral growth as an intelligent species.
    *Christianity is a man made religion.
    *She can’t blame someone she doesn’t believe in.
    *All Christianity is a cult. Like the crazy people with the punch, committing suicide for a saviour comet, religions promise you a reward after you die in exchange for a lifetime of servitude (and tithes). How convenient. A payment they’re not required to prove. I’m not going to show up to my job for the promise of pay after I die.

    I support you in your righteous struggle to separate yourself from the cult of “stop asking questions!”
    I have no problem with people who feel they are spiritual, who pray, or want to believe; but those are personal experiences – and should be kept personal.

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    • Thank you for your comment. I’m glad that there is people out there that understand how I feel about this subject 🙂 It is really hard sometimes to explain to some people that I would rather not discuss religion. I don’t need to “be saved” or “need god to help me get through this”. I prefer relying on my friends and family instead. At least I really do know they are there for me 🙂

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      • please think on the positive of my comment instead of seeking a probation for the negative thoughts on GOD

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      • I’m sorry you are struggling. A friend who is very concerned for my immortal soul once asked me how it was that I could live such a good christian life as I do, and not believe. “Why can’t you take that last step and believe in the saviour?”
        I asked him if he could STOP believing what HE does, he said he could not. So I asked how he expected me to simply START believing. What did he expect me to do, lie and say I do? I will not lie. The omniscient god he has faith in would KNOW I was lying.

        We want to be left alone. We want to have freedom and not be pinned down by the christian version of Sharia law. We do good in the world because we have empathy, not because we fear hell. Love and kindness are part of human nature; wisdom lies in knowing that the universe is in constant change. The difficulties society faced hundreds of years ago are not all the same ones we face today, and preceded a great deal of the knowledge we have since gained which places those biblical times difficulties into perspective and sheds light on their root causes.

        That said, I have read the bible and though he is fictional, I find Jesus to be an excellent role model for living. Also, that most christians I’ve encountered are absolutely nothing like him.

        I apologize if I am filling your blog space, but those of us who feel genuine love and empathy find it difficult to be silent when we see our own or anyone being harassed and worse.
        I sincerely hope that you find all the calm and joy in your life through your very own, UNDISTURBED personal journey with your conscience, spiritual or not.

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      • Sad that you think JESUS is fictional, a belief not shared by many.

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      • Don’t worry about filling my blog space! Thank you for sharing your experience and supporting me 🙂 I think Jesus is a good role model as well, but as Einstein said “everyone should be respected as an individual, but no one idolized”. Thank you for sharing your thoughts again!

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      • Jesus is our role model. Einstein was only a man, wrote different man made quotes.

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      • Please think about Love.

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  6. You can also do the same. And further, would you condem a discussion, even when fading from your existence…

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    • Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?

      Can you answer these?

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      • Yes, I can answer your attack on GOD. Please think about what you are asking. Is it proof of HIS Existance or is it proof of whether HE is not omnipotent. When you ask me a question and answer it, then, philosophically you are turning the discussion to a vicious circle, a method used to avoid the principle (in French it is called petition de principe) by deducing further from answering your own question without debate in principal.. When you have decided to discuss openly without accusation and when you have an open mind to further an in depth open minded discussion, read The Holy Scriptures, so that my comments to you will be understood while grounded in Holy Scripture, and we can exchange understandings through HIS HOLY WORD. Less than this becomes an argument grounded in stereo types one finds in the atheist, agnostic rhetoric. No grounding in Holy Scripture. Please refrain from further violent attacks on OUR GOD.
        kindly seek the King James Version, you will find easy reading on http://www.biblegateway.com
        Please think seriously about it and know am always loving you.

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      • I am not accusing anyone or anything. I am only asking questions, that’s all.

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      • Then, please read The Holy Scriptures, especially the New Testament.
        Thank you

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      • And I ask you to please let me believe in what I want. Thank you.

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      • When you need me, am always loving you, please accept further discussion, I do want to answer your attack on GOD.

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      • I am not attacking your god. There is no further discussion. We have different beliefs and you need to accept that and move on.

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      • Move on, and forceful acceptance, resonates as bigoted and limited. Please try to remember this blog, have it firmly grounded and remember your ways.

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      • I’m not sure what your definition of bigoted is, but I’m pretty sure you are trying to force your opinion on me right now. I’m trying to accept our differences. You are creating conflict where there should be none.

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      • Have a heart to re-read all your comments and attacks on GOD, then when you have finished and still are of the same opinion, you are insensitive to the debasing way you write, with a stony heart, about Our GOD. Why are you not wanting to read Holy Scriptures?

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  7. christinemhowe on said:

    A brave and very interesting post. Thank you for sharing your thoughts; I’m in tune with many of them. I love the quote about true morality. Goodness is not the preserve of those who have faith in a god.

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    • Thank you for your comment. I’m really glad you found something you can relate to 🙂 And yes the quote about morality really resonates with my as well.

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      • Please include that morality is from abiding in The 10 Commandments.

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      • Mom please accept our differing views. I’m open to you being religious, so please do the same for me and let me believe in whatever I want. Please do not impose your beliefs on me like when you believed in Judaism and want me to be Jewish.

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  8. I support your beliefs, because I believe you are a good person. Whatever gets you there. We are evolving creatures and I think that weighing thoughts is an important part of the process. I had to travel half way across the world to live free of religious dogma. Then, I went to visit relatives (Catholic, Pentecostal) and they screamed at me and reprimanded me for not wanting to go to a church and for visiting a temple. I thought, “This is someone’s religion. This is why I don’t talk to you.” So often I hear people complain about unfair treatment without recognising how much of it they’re doing themselves. In my opinion, people become atheists because they get no breathing room to explore their spirituality in a meaningful way.

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    • Your support for what end, sabiscuit, does it help to know who you are?

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    • Thank you for your support SB, it really means a lot 🙂 I’m glad you could relate to what I wrote in some ways. I think there’s a definitive different between religion and spirituality. I’ve met spiritual people and they tend to be more open and accepting of someone else’s beliefs for some reason. Thanks again for your comment! 😀

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    • Please, Celine, the difference between sharing and imposing is great, why do you feel so imposed on when am speaking about GOD and my experiences?

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      • You’re not only speaking about god, you’re telling me to read the Bible, to pray, to believe. That is imposing, so please stop.

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      • Yes am asking you to read the Holy Bible, as you attack GOD, then have questions about HIM, then continue to discuss without reading. All should read about any subject before knocking it down, it’s simply a scholarly way. Perhaps, you would feel satisfied to read the Holy Bible. When reading any material, always have an open mind, let go of preconceived ideas, then information flows and is processed. That’s how my master’s research was conducted, the principles of research are fundamental, helps also to get acquainted with the basics in phenomenology. hope this clarifies my requests and do please continue to share your thoughts with me, it helps me also.

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      • I can’t be attacking god since I don’t believe he exists. I’m asking you to stop and let it go. I am not going to change my view as I’m not trying to change yours. As I’ve said before, let’s respect our different views and leave it that.

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      • To ask me to stop is to deny me freedom of speech. To deny you are attacking GOD is contrary to what you write. Being objective is scholarly. please have a heart and let’s be scholarly. Retread my comments, can you find them unscholarly? Suggestions are not impositions and you opened the blog with the topic. Are you policing or tailoring to your approval? Open mindedness is valuable, discussion, readings, also. Thank you for considering me as one that enjoys discussion, perhaps you will also. Forever loving you.

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  9. I had a seminary professor, a confrere in the Benedictine abbey I once belonged to before leaving and getting married, who pointed out that ‘heaven is reserved for people who like surprises.’ Now, years later, I define ‘faith’ as the ability to embrace, accept, and surrender to mystery, a growing emptiness that continually makes room for all that lies far beyond our understanding. I happen to attribute ‘devine’ qualities to the fullness of this emptiness. As an anthropologist I’m intrigued by our efforts to supply content to replace the fullness of that emptiness. As a believer, I too question more than answer because I believe I’m called to peel back the filters, formulas, and, yes, certainty that make it nearly impossible to confront the genuinely ineffable. I know it’s out there, in here; and, I’m humbled by it.

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    • Thank you for your personal experience and please share more of your way as a believer. Am interested what do you mean by peeling back filters and formulas?

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    • Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I do believe there are things that are always going to be left unexplained, but I cannot follow man made scriptures and rules. I’m glad you’re at a point in your life where you seem to understand yourself and your surroundings better 🙂 Thank you for commenting again!

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      • Yes man made scriptures, imposed rituals and everything said is what turns people away from GOD.

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      • These are hard concepts to even try to deal with much less articulate. http://portfoliolongo.com/2015/09/19/faith-2/

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      • What do you mean by hard concepts to deal with?

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      • I’m confused. Are you the blogger?

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      • No, I’m the blogger 🙂 Lu is my very invested mom.

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      • Yeah!

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      • I’m out of this. Respectfully. I thought my chipmunk drawing conveyed my point. Please go back to what you were saying to one another. I’d give anything to have 5 minutes with either parent! All the very best.

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      • I apologise for the confusion. My mother shares different views from what I wrote on religion and can’t seem to accept our differences. I could delete the comments but I do not want censor any longer. I hope you will still come by to visit my blog sometime in the future 🙂

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      • I understand, and yea, I’ll be following.

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      • Thank you!

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      • Now, dear, why would you even think if censorship, and please think that unilateral thoughts are of a stagnant nature, debate is positive, blinders are not. Our differences are definitely not on religion, as you put it. I have no man made religion, no, none. And will never again have. No man made rituals.
        I believe in GOD ALMIGHTY, Our creator. I believe in CHRIST JESUS, my SAVIOUR, all my references are in The Old and New Testament = The HOLY BIBLE.
        So, that is why, when you critisedsize GOD, and some religions, put all in one basket, my suggestion to you, in a scholarly way was to ask you to read The Holy Bible, so that this exchange could be of value. And perhaps some dogma removed. About 8 years ago, I had still not read all of The Holy Bible, then it struck me, and I said firstly to myself, then to my lawyer the following: I do not want to die an idiot. Gave my Holy Bible to my lawyer, and pointed out a passage concerning his profession, in The New Testament. You will remember Mr. Janas, his father interned in Aushwitz, the ones that saved me from homelessness….

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      • Can we have this discussion elsewhere? This is a public forum, but you’re talking about your private life. I don’t belive in god, I respect that you and that’s the end of story.

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      • To portfolio : you may take 5 with her dad, but with her Mom, take 10, that is to say take Ten Commandments, then we can discuss with joy!

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  10. Have you decided to accept my proposal to show you the goodness of GOD?

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  11. Your birthday is coming up, please let me know how you spend it, and have mailed to you a gift, hope you like it. Hugs

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  12. Still confused? Would you like to articulate your feelings about one aspect at a time?

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  13. End of story is, Book of Revelation, may I suggest you start from the end.

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  14. Also, it is not my private life regarding GOD, then you never want to discuss it elsewhere and your display of your private life reflects strongly on me. The photo you published of you holding the candle, was when you were 4 years old, and it was in a church at your sister’s baptismal. By the way, am in strong disagreement of infant baptismal, it was your father’s insistence at the time. thank you for your thoughts.

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  15. Have a good day!

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  16. I do not believe in organised religion…I have just posted something about the Afterlife …and it has nothing to do with any ‘Man made’ Religion…although if that is someone’s way of life then I respect their right to choose it for themselves….but not to try to force it on others.

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